tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6533996127304587865.post3825967756903311713..comments2023-10-16T21:11:28.700+03:00Comments on Dodecad Ancestry Project: Ancestral North Indian for South Asian members (with PCA)Dienekeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02082684850093948970noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6533996127304587865.post-49222775150132114372011-05-09T09:54:59.166+03:002011-05-09T09:54:59.166+03:00Yes, I am aware of the fact that populations like ...Yes, I am aware of the fact that populations like Bengalis tend to have additional East Asian admixture, thus making them somewhat off-cline. However, I was wondering whether the remainder of my score is ASI. As I said I don't have admixture based results to compare with from you (Dienekes) and as far as I can see the spreadsheet lists only the following : <b>Alphanumeric ID - PC1 - ANI%</b>. If we assume the remainder is ASI, my ANI-ASI score is - 56.6 and 43.5 respectively. I am DOD464.<br /><br />Also, here are the South Asian clusters based on the Clusters Galore exercise as of March 31 and K=12 as of April 29 respectively. I reckon this will help infer the results better. There is a primary regional gradation, and a secondary caste-based one as far as the ANI figures are concerned. Ethnicities are listed against the IDs - blank ones are obviously people who didn't leave a message in the Ancestry thread.<br />-<a href="http://i54.tinypic.com/v430bk.jpg" rel="nofollow">Clusters Galore based South Asian cluster</a><br /><br />-<a href="http://i53.tinypic.com/1zods3q.jpg" rel="nofollow">K=12 based South Asian cluster</a>Vasishtahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16475698920004634252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6533996127304587865.post-29547955462111698032011-05-08T19:27:53.111+03:002011-05-08T19:27:53.111+03:00Dienekes, is it accurate to assume that the remain...<i>Dienekes, is it accurate to assume that the remainder is ASI, or is there a possibility of the presence of additional real West or East Eurasian components?</i><br /><br />The Indian Cline percentages were estimated on individuals who could be modeled as a 2-way admixture. West Eurasian groups are quite similar to each other (compared to Onge). Onge are, however, a not very good proxy for East Eurasian elements, i.e., such individuals are "off-cline" and their east Eurasian is projected as West Eurasian/Onge with unpredictable results.<br /><br />BTW, how much ASI did u get in this?Dodecad Projecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10447516703222698752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6533996127304587865.post-44809575207811384142011-05-08T08:31:47.761+03:002011-05-08T08:31:47.761+03:00Dienekes, is it accurate to assume that the remain...Dienekes, is it accurate to assume that the remainder is ASI, or is there a possibility of the presence of additional <i>real</i> West or East Eurasian components? While this is not exactly comparable, Zack estimated my Ancestral South Indian admixture to be 40.03% in his latest <i>K=11 Admixture Ref3</i> run where we saw the <i>Onge</i> component which comrpised of the bulk of the inferred ASI figures for most participants. Unfortunately, I do not have any ANI-ASI <i>admixture</i>-based results from Dodecad to compare with these results as I got my 23andMe results on the day you posted that analysis. I would appreciate your comments on all of this. Thanks.Vasishtahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16475698920004634252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6533996127304587865.post-18325984946062818762011-05-07T23:22:21.649+03:002011-05-07T23:22:21.649+03:00I didn't go through them one by one, but I wou...I didn't go through them one by one, but I would guess that the difference would be highest for the few Mongoloid-admixed participants in the Project, as these do not fall strictly speaking along the Caucasoid-Onge cline.Dienekeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02082684850093948970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6533996127304587865.post-61348643375791098002011-05-07T21:19:30.653+03:002011-05-07T21:19:30.653+03:00Comparing this PCA-based analysis to your previous...Comparing this PCA-based analysis to your previous one using Admixture, there is a 1-2% difference. But for a few participants the difference is larger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6533996127304587865.post-30012543511207558232011-05-07T15:25:39.596+03:002011-05-07T15:25:39.596+03:00DOD585 - Kashmiri
DOD584 - Punjabi
Where can I se...DOD585 - Kashmiri<br />DOD584 - Punjabi<br /><br />Where can I see a list of ethnicities for DOD numbers?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6533996127304587865.post-85709279399745577592011-05-07T02:19:58.972+03:002011-05-07T02:19:58.972+03:00Thanks for this, Dienekes. Could you kindly reques...Thanks for this, Dienekes. Could you kindly <i>request</i> the following participants to make a small statement regarding their ancestry in the ancestry thread, <i>if</i> possible:<br /><br />-DOD585<br />-DOD584<br />-DOD449<br />-DOD583<br />-DOD078<br />-DOD201<br /><br />Thanks again, for your efforts!Vasishtahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16475698920004634252noreply@blogger.com